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Post by Big Brother on Oct 10, 2008 0:13:02 GMT -5
Please make your closing statements here.
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Post by Will Kirby on Oct 10, 2008 11:10:04 GMT -5
Nakomis - Sarah - Keesha - April You 4 are gona decide the winner of this game. This is not Big Brother Australia, its not even the UK version. This is not suppose to be a popularity contest, if it was there would be no jury votes and we would post polls and advertise saying OMG VOTE FOR ME TO WIN URTV3. Ask yourself why are you in the jury? If its because of me, then right there is your answer on who you should crown the winner. If I was in your shoes I would be like damn whoever got me out of this game must have been one bad ass player cause I believe I was a strong player. Now if you think you were a weak player and it was easy to get you out then go ahead and vote in the popularity poll instead. Now for you other 3.......... Roddy - You know very well who played the game the best, if you wana base your vote on who appeared to be the nicer one the whole season then go ahead. James - Why even ask me a question? you know your gona vote for your "best friend" to win the game, and your key is gona be pulled 1st cause everyone knows who its gona be for. Sheila - You do realize you don't have to base your vote on having a stronger friendship with someone right? All I want from you is to think about for 15 seconds before you vote and ask yourself did Will play the better game? You don't have to answer the question just ask yourself before you vote Sure I tanked comps at the beginning, if I showed my true competitivenesses I wouldn't have made jury even. The facts are right there, if you respect the game play of people who win comps, bang I won the most this season so there ya go. If you like the social game play, I don't know how anyone is saying I lacked in this department? This doesn't even make sense. How the hell did I have all these alliances and was able to get votes week after week if I had no social game? I pissed off a lot pre jury people who ended up exposing me in their goodbye speeches warning you to get me out of the house and that I was gona win this game since week 3. You all figured my game play out at the jury stage, I was up for 2 more evictions after that but yet I'm still here. I think that is far more impressive than laying low and hiding behind me, I never hid behind my LN C alliance. If I did then why was Alex - Diane - Erika (kinda) - Angie - Richard all pissed at me? They knew I was the reason they got evicted, I didn't see them calling out anyone else in their grenade speech. Same way when Sheila left, she knew who got her out and let it be known who she wanted to see next. I was the swing vote to get Sarah out. I put a plan into action to blindside James, and back doored Roddy. So that leaves 2 evictions I wasn't apart of, I was nominated against both April and Keesha, and I got the votes to stay on both so I guess thats kinda being apart. Now if you think Chelsia had any plan and ideas of getting these people out then she's either ridding my coattails letting me be the bad guy with the blood on my hands and making me do the dirty work or she's just saying it benefited her cause she was aligned with me. Take your pick, either way I was the one calling the shots this whole game. hi sarah
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Post by I R DRUNK!! on Oct 10, 2008 11:16:16 GMT -5
hai2u
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Chelsia
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Post by Chelsia on Oct 10, 2008 20:55:46 GMT -5
well, I pretty much said all this, so I'll restate alot of it.
Big Brother is not just a game of "who can make the biggest moves" and "who can screw over the most people to get to the final two." Big Brother is part competitions, part strategy, and part social. I had all three and I played using them the entire game.
My strategy WAS to win competitions that I needed and have a good social game, most importantly to help me later in the game. No one in this game carried me, and I rode no one's coattails. I formed the right alliances that helped me in this game, and that's just a part of Big Brother. I made the right alliances, and solidified those alliances as best as possible, I made the right moves, I spoke out when I felt necessary, and I kept my mouth shut when necessary.
I didn't have to make deals and alliances, constantly breaking my word and screwing people over. not because someone else was doing it, because I CHOSE to play a game differently than that. I chose to play a game that I felt would work for me in getting me to the final two, getting what I wanted done, and the MOST important thing... would mesh well with the other houseguests & their strategies.
I've already stated that I would have choose two good gameplayers who I had a close relationship in the final two, if it couldn't be the one we had now. Because social politics play a huge part in this game, and emotions/personal things DO make a difference.
I was not the only one to get to the end of the game without doing the shady things that Will did. Keesha and Nakomis BOTH made the final four with me without doing the things that he did, does this mean that they road Will's coattails to get here too? no. it is possible to get to the end based off the things that I did: a balance of competition wins, stategic moves, tight formed alliances, strong social bonds, agressive moves, and quiet, low-ket, passive-agressive moves.
You don't have to do all of the things that Will did to get to the end, a few of us proved it. Will can say that I wouldn't be here if it weren't for him, but he wouldn't be here if it weren't for me. You don't have to play that type of game, and I didn't.
I played the game that I thought was better not only in getting what I wanted done, getting to the end, and having strong social bonds as well. I chose not to do all of the shady stuff that screwed over alot of people to get myself to the end, instead I chose a game that I thought was superior, and it worked for me.
If you honestly see Big Brother as being 100% strategy and nothing else, then I won't have your vote because you don't understand that there's more to the game. To discredit my game entirely because I chose not to play a dirty, sneaky game like Will... well that's not voting like a true juror who understands this game either. I have faith that you will really take in account everything the games that we played, all aspects of it, rather than discrediting the game I played just because it wasn't a dirty game. it was a game I chose to play, a game that got me here, a game that has all aspects of Big Brother, and a game that deserves to win. good luck with your decision!
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Post by Big Brother on Oct 10, 2008 21:17:08 GMT -5
Thank you both.
Voting begins now. To vote, PM me with the name of the person you will be voting. The votes will be revealed LIVE during the Wrap Party on Sunday.
Please do not discuss who you voted for to ANYBODY. Even if it is an obvious vote. Keep everything to yourself. If you don't think you'll be able to keep it in, vote at the last possible minute.
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Post by Will Kirby on Oct 11, 2008 12:32:14 GMT -5
so your saying you won comps, you strategized and you were social
1. I won more comps than you
2. I believe I had more strategic game moves in this game
3. I was more social than you, didn't you want Jun and Sarah out because you never spoke 2 words to them before? and you never spoke to Roddy... I have talked to everyone in this game, I got to know everyone the first week before I was nominated. Thats a huge reason why I stayed week 1, how the hell does everyone think I never had a social game. I talked to everyone, made relationships with almost everyone but yet I had no social game?
go figure
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Chelsia
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Post by Chelsia on Oct 11, 2008 12:58:13 GMT -5
good lord, CLOSING statements. we were done with this part, correct? apparently this isn't the closing statements, then.
Will, you didn't have a social game because you made deals with everyone, lied to everyone, screwed everyone over, pissed everyone off, and used everyone to get to the spot you are at. THAT is the point of the social aspect we are discussing. I went after Jun because I knew from the beginning based on things that she was coming after ME. I went after Sarah because I knew that she was after one of my closest allies, and in turn myself. as for social game, the fact that you're SO upset that I may have a couple votes based on social things only proves that I played a far superior social game than you. we both chose to play the game that we played, from the very beginning you chose to play a crazy, dirty game that like you have said many times fucked everyone over.you've said for so long fuck the jury, well you knew that you would need their votes in the end and instead you decided to screw people over and play that type of game. you have proven that by everything that you've posted starting at the beginning of the game. I chose to play a cleaner, social, more true alliance based game from the very beginning. not because you were playing the dirty game, many other people got to the end without the benefit of our alliance as well! we chose to play different games. BOTH games were effective, both games got us to this point together. we both played a great game and both of us helped each other as well. the fact of it is we played different games and it all comes down to the type of game that these jurors want to vote for. end of story.
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Post by Richard on Oct 11, 2008 20:47:56 GMT -5
The show has been cancelled you both lose JP :-D
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Post by Big Brother on Oct 11, 2008 21:23:16 GMT -5
It is closing statements, so stfu I still need three more votes, so yeah...get to that pl0x.
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Chelsia
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2nd place = the shit. yay
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Post by Chelsia on Oct 11, 2008 22:14:40 GMT -5
I wasn't talking to you. so you stfu. kthanks. yay, vote. cough in the election too cough. let's start this thing as early as possible, yes? some of us don't have Monday off =[
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Post by Sheila on Oct 11, 2008 23:10:40 GMT -5
ima be out till about 930 so if you start i might catch you at the begining idk
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Post by Big Brother on Oct 11, 2008 23:44:31 GMT -5
I wasn't talking to you. so you stfu. kthanks. I wasn't talking to you either I was talking to Hatch Anyway, still need two votes...
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Post by Will Kirby on Oct 12, 2008 3:33:10 GMT -5
OH yaeah?
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Post by james on Nov 9, 2008 4:25:43 GMT -5
i voted for will to win
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Post by Will Kirby on Nov 9, 2008 13:37:03 GMT -5
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