Jury Questioning

[Big Brother]

All jury questioning will be here. Try to wrap this up by tomorrow.

[Big Brother]

James won't be around until late tomorrow, so I'll send his over.




will: i have 2 questions.
1) who was in on my eviction? who know, who helped plan it and how long did you know i was going to be your target?

2) who would have evicted had you won the final 4 veto and why?

chelsia:
what was your best and worst strategic move?

[Keesha]

ALRIGHT.

Heres my lovely opening statement.

Will, chelsia, you both played an awesome game, Will, you were my alliance since day 1 (as you were with everyone) and chelsia, you were in my alliance since week 2.

First off, Chelsia DO NOT feel too special about being with Will he had the same connection with me as Im sure he did with everyone else he just used you to bring him to f2, let me just list all his final 2 agreements, that I know of from the jury.

Wills f2 deals
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Keesha
Chelsia
April
Roddy
Daniele
Nakomis
Sheila



Doesnt it feel great to be on a list like that? and for us to have trusted him all the way through?

Also chelsia, and james dont take ALL the credit for getting Sarah on the block and out, we all contributed =) except Will.

Now there are some good things I have to say about both of you.

Will, when you wanted someone out of this house..you did it.
You nominated who you wanted out, you won pov, you got them out, or you manipulated people into not using veto (coughmecough) to get them out.
You played hella dirty, just like the real Will...


Chelsia, you had a target on your back as well as me and howie and our whole alliance, but unlike Will me and you never really made big huge deals with everyone else, you had to FIGHT to stay in the game and I applaud you for that, because me and you played very similar.


And Will,you were going to evict me because I knew the facts about you alligning with everyone, i dont know why you expected me to trust you when I knew shit like that was going down, but anyways.

Will, who exactly were you most loyal to out of all your alliances and why?
If there could be another final 2 besides you 2 who would it be and why?
Would you have kept me if you won the final 4 pov?
If not, you really played me like a fiddle, and why were you more close to Chelsia than me? Was it because I figured out your shit?

Btw if I had won pov I would have kept Chelsia, Will your lucky you suckered Chelsia into taking you to the final 2, if you dont win then Satan must have your soul.

Chelsia, probably made the dumbest gameplay move ever, Play with your brain when it comes down to low numbers like final 4, not your heart k thx.


Now chelsia..chelsia..chelsia..chelsia..

You were secretly alligned with James, and I knew that so for a few weeks I did watch what I said to one in case it was repeated to another. I still can't believe you didnt getthe money from james in the auction though..lol..that did kind of throw me off on you guys being in an alliance but overall I did know.

Chelsia, you kind of ignored me when I wrote a long paragraph trying to get you to save me, but im guessing will was sucking on your earlobe like a creature from mars getting into your brain to take him, but good job you could have won but personally I think you will lose now, that pissed me off.

Oh and, btw you may thank will for making it a tie vote week 2, but Howie definately wanted to hear what I had to say in order to keep you in,if I said to evict you im sure things would have turnedout different,so dont give will the credit for everything in that either. I think you should have reached out more in the earlier weeks to more people instead of just talking to your REDJAC alliance, it might have helped your beginning game a bit more.




Chelsia, why do you deserve to win this game over Will?
If you could pick any other two people besides you and will to be in final 2 who would it be and why?





I still like both of you guys and I hope strategies change (coughwillcough) and we can all still be friends, and I may sound a bit bitter, because I sort of am. and I might have some followup questions after you answer so yay =)

[Will Kirby]

will: i have 2 questions.
1) who was in on my eviction? who know, who helped plan it and how long did you know i was going to be your target?
April - Roddy - Nakomis and myself were in on your eviction, Keesha and Chelsia had no idea about this move of mine.

I planned on evicting you right when I nominated you against Nakomis, but I played it out to everyone that you were the "pawn." Before nominations I made a deal with Roddy so that he would vote how I wanted, and I also felt that I could get April's vote as well. When Keesha won the veto, I started to set my plan into action by getting Roddy and April's vote confirmed that they would vote you out. I would break the tie and you would leave.

Then I hit a speed bump in my plan when Keesha was going to save you. The girls both wanted Roddy gone instead of Nakomis. I first threatened to nominate Chelsia as replacement, and I also played the hoh card how I wanted Nakomis out so bad and she better not use it, but nothing worked. So this is when I went to Nakomis and made a deal with her, that she would keep me safe next week if I kept her in this game. I came up with the only plan that would work to get Keesha not to use veto on you. I invited Nakomis into a LN C chat and I told her everything to say in a private IM with her, it was like talking to myself. I had Nakomis tell Chels/Keesh that if she stays she was gona nominate Chelsia against Will and if 1 came down Keesha would go up. This would ensure that Keesha could not use veto to get Roddy out, cause Nakomis would nominate her next week. Nakomis and I pulled of a beautiful staged fight that everyone believed and Keesha did not use the veto, and I broke the tie to evict you.

2) who would have evicted had you won the final 4 veto and why?
Why the hell would you care who I took to final 3? I was expecting this question from Keesha, not you. But obviously you are trying to rally the jury to vote for Chelsia to win. You know who I was going to take to the final 3, and thats why you asked me this question... to piss Keesha off.

but I will answer it anyways

I would have evicted Keesha if I won veto. I trusted Chelsia a lot more down the stretch in this game. Keesha nominated me 2 weeks earlier and then won veto and still left me on the block, so I lost trust in her. Also Chelsia told me Keesha was trying to get her to take her to the final 3 before veto even started, saying none of them could beat me in the final 2. So ya I tried to get all 3 girls to take me to the final 3, but Keesha was doing the same thing. It would have been stupid if Keesha didn't try and get Chelsia to take her to final 3. I wasn't mad at all when Chelsia told me, I understand its the game and I hope Keesha does too.

[Keesha]

Thanks James for stealing my question!

[Chelsia]

James, my best strategic move was probably forming the alliance with you, and with Will/Keesha/Howie early on. I had an alliance with the right people... people I liked, people who I trusted & trusted me, people who were good at competitions, and people who I felt were loyal to the end.

my worst strategic move was probably winning the final POV, because alone, I had to evict one of my two allies. in hindsight, I should have thrown it, but I couldn't take the chance of Will or Keesha evicting me.

Keesha, first, did I say I felt special about being on a list like that? what makes you think I didn't know about that list? I didn't need to figure out his shit, he told me. I'm sorry if you still see that as I played you, because that's far from the truth.

as for ignoring you, I did no such thing. I didn't talk to anyone at the time, I believe my aim status clearly said I was taking a shower while I thought about my ceremony. if we want to get into ignoring people, you told me you went to invisible so you didn't have to face Will and the fact that you were evicting me, yet you fault me for thinking that I did the same thing?

as for being bitter about the fact that I evicted you over Will, keep in mind darling that you promised both of us you were taking us as well. You told Will that you would vote me out and that you two should be in the final two, and you told me that we deserved to be in the final two, had an equal chance at it, and Will didn't deserve to win due to how he played. We both said we wouldn't screw over our allies. You said you hated how Will played the game, by backstabbing everyone and that we shouldn't do that. Well, I didn't. Will was a closer ally a long time before you were. You weren't close to me until Howie was evicted. and I trusted him alot longer. Yet now, you're telling me what a dumb move it was by practicing what we both preached all along. If you can't understand why I did what I did, then how you said you played your entire game was completely a lie. We both played with our emotions in this game at times. Does that mean that how you played your game was dumb as well? You said that you & I deserved it the most because you respected the kind of game that we played and that we played similiar games. Well, then put your money where your mouth is.

Will & I both played great games, but we played different games. my game was laying low, playing a good social game, do whatever I could to get myself to the final two [its pointless to set yourself up to be against someone you would beat, if you can't get yourself there in the first place], having strong bonds & alliances, and getting the things that I wanted done without pissing people off and stabbing people in the back. for these reasons, I think I deserve to win.

If I could pick any two people to be in the final two, besides us, it would be the two other people who were closest to me in this game for these past few months... James and Keesha. why? for the fact that you both played great games, are loyal, intelligiant people, and were two of my closest friends in this game.

on a final note for this round of your questions... you told me right before I evicted you that we would still remain friends after this and that we played the same and deserved to win over everyone. Was that all truth, or just a ploy to get me to save you? I guess you're vote will answer that question.

[Will Kirby]

Will, who exactly were you most loyal to out of all your alliances and why?
I was most loyal to Chelsia, because she knew how to keep her mouth shut. I trusted her 100%, I basically told her every move I made in the game, and she respected how I played it. When I talked game with you, it was completely opposite. You thought all my moves were stupid, idiotic and worthless. Thats why I didnt tell you any of them, because it was my way or the highway and you knew that and if I told you my moves then you wouldn't have let me go through with them.

If there could be another final 2 besides you 2 who would it be and why?
Another final 2 would be Will - Keesha, It doesn't matter how many alliances I had in this game, my 1st loyalty was always to you Keesha and Chelsia. The only reason I made those alliances were to 1. survive the first week and 2. to keep us 3 in the game longer. I've tried explaining this theory to you 2 for about 2 months now. If there is a FOR SURE ALLIANCE of 3 people, if we dont get hoh, 1 of us will go home. Nominate 2 of us, 1 wins veto, the other goes up. BINGO 1 of us would go home. With me keeping myself safe every week and being aligned with everyone, I was able to keep myself safe first then I was able to manipulate people into either keeping you 2 off the block or to only nominate 1 of you and then get the votes for the other to stay.


Would you have kept me if you won the final 4 pov?
If not, you really played me like a fiddle, and why were you more close to Chelsia than me? Was it because I figured out your shit?
no, I already answered this question. I would have taken Chelsia and you would have taken Chelsia too yay...

I think I answered this too, I was closer to Chelsia cause you didnt let me do what I wanted, and Chelsia understood all my moves and let me do whatever the hell I wanted. Also you nominated me and I was about 20 minutes away from being evicted because of you. I literally changed Roddy's vote in less than 20 minutes.

[Sheila]

im not good with speeches and stuff. so
Congrats to both of you! I think you both deserve to be in the final 2. so good job!


Will i just wanna know what you thought you would would get out of lying to everyone. what if we all found out you where playing us? what would you have done?(oh and i made my avatar your favorite picture will)

chelsia i know im your favorite juror(suck it keesha ahah just kidding) I wanna know what your favorite moment with me was =)
i <3 you gurl

[Keesha]

Well then I guess Chelsia played me in that way because me and her discussed your game moves and she apparently felt the exact same way I felt.

And chelsia, if I dont vote for you to win its not going to abolish our friendship, atleast in my eyes, you might feel different I dont know.

Will, I kept not trusting you because everything you did was shady, and maybe if you did tell me some of the stuff you were doing and not after the fact then maybe I would have trusted you a bit more, trust is a two way street.

[I R DRUNK!!]

LOL, ok well after keesha's speech i don't really know what to say...

but i'll try...


Of the people left in this game, I honestly hoped that you 2 would get to the end, because you two had the game play that I respected most. They were two different ways of playing the game, but since you were obviously were alligned(not so obv then, but now) you used those 2 different ways of playing the game, to get you two where you are now. I have to agree in that Chelsia and Keesha's game plays were very similar, BUT you Chelsia went about it in a better way, while Keesha managed to piss many people off, or just using her 'fake' tactics of sobbing and whining. Basically I want to say congratulations.. now on to the not so fun stuff!


For Will, you obviously chose to stay true to one alliance this entire game, but you had to have known that this game would have been pretty much HANDED to you, had you taken Nakomis instead of Chelsia....did it ever cross your mind to take Nakomis? If so, what convinced you not too? Don't tell me that you "don't care if you lose to Chelsia because shes your best friend" blah blah blah.. no one plays these games for 2nd place.

You had my back for the most part in this game, but at some points like that first veto when we were throwing it to Sheila, you seemed kind of shady. Now, we all know, when you are approached for alliances in these games, its pretty much the dumbest move one could make to say no. So, what I want to know, is if at first you were sincere in wanting to help us get Keesha, and Chelsia out, or if you just agreed to appease us.
The obvious answer is that you just agreed, but from the loyalty you showed me, 75% of the time, I'm unsure.

Give us a breakdown of who you alligned with at certain points e and what brought the alliance about, and why they were pivitol to your game?


Lastly, with my eviction, its obvious from what Keesha wrote above my post, that you weren't pushing to get me out, but were you really sincere in telling me you wouldn't vote me out, before you did?


Chelsia!

Ok, so you and Will shared your pws for DRs, or you had his, i don't quite know how that went down, but that obviously you two were pretty tight. I honestly thought you and Keesha were closest, so kudos for keeping that on the DL. What I would like to know is that, unless Will didn't write about it(which i highly doubt), you would have known about his "alliance" with Sheila and I. How come this came as a big shock to Keesha? Was this another one of her "acting" attempts, or did you really not tell her about it? If so, what other things did you hide from her, and why?
I'm just singling Keesha out here because I honestly did think that you two were closer than you and Will. It was kind of almost as shocking to me, as it was to some people last season when they found out I was alligned with Dustin, all along, and that I knew him IRL.

You and your group were targeting me for a real long time in this game, and eventually I was evicted, can you PLEASE post a real reason for nominating and evicting me other than the stupid reasons I got in the game.
Keesha nominating me to teach WILL a lesson because he had told me she hated me.
Nakomis nominating me because I won last season, and she was a huge fan of me, but it was best for her(read properly as:
best for Keesha, James, Roddy, Chelsia)
I am so tired of hearing I was a competitve threat, everyone and their mother's aunt knows that I only won 1 competition this game, and I didn't pull out my awesome social skills that I used last season...and I find it kind of funny that you all wanted me out first before Sheila, since she is the one that betrayed you guys to help keep me safe. Did you think that you would be able to sway her back to your alliance, the one that completely ignored her when she asked if she was just being used as a vote?


What do you think would have happened in the game, if Keesha, Sheila, you and I had teamed up like I had suggested one time in conversation?

Anyways that is it for my essay long questions for each of you, and please don't think that I am bitter towards either of you, I just would like to have some answers before I can make up my mind because it is honestly a toss up right now.

<3 Congratulations again.

[Sheila]

fuck just over look my questions after that.
thanks sarah ass.

[Will Kirby]

Will i just wanna know what you thought you would would get out of lying to everyone. what if we all found out you where playing us? what would you have done?(oh and i made my avatar your favorite picture will)
Well everyone started to find out about the 10k alliances and thats when I used the cou de twat to save you and Chelsia. The plan was to show loyalty to both you and Sarah mean while showing loyalty to Chelsia at the same time by saving you both. Then I needed to get Richard out, because he was the only one I didnt have a deal with at the time, I tried to win my first comp of the season because for the plan to work out to perfection Richard had to stay on the block so I won veto and got Richard voted out in a unanimous decision. I also won the veto to prove that I could win hoh's and save all of you but then I just went back to tanking them until everyone started to again talk about how I was aligned with the house, thats when I had to starting trying to win hoh's to keep me safe and make new deals to keep me safe the off weeks I couldnt compete for hoh. Even though everyone eventually figured my game play out, I talked to everyone individually and convinced them that they were my "true alliance"

So everyone eventually found out that I was lying to them all, but yet they still couldnt get me evicted, I either won hoh/veto or I convinced them cough Roddy to keep me in the game.

p.s. I love that avatar

[Chelsia]

Sheila, thanks girl! <3 you, too. my favorite moment with you was probably when we spent five hours talking about how much we're both in love with Tony Romo and how obsessed you are. oh... oops. secret's out. no for real though, this was hard to pick but I chose a time that I think I connected to you the most based off of our personalities. my favorite moment with you was just a random conversation that we had about partying it up in the jury house because we both recognize it's just a game and that we wanted to have a fun time.

[Sheila]

Thanks chelsia and will great answers =)

[I R DRUNK!!]

Oct 8, 2008 18:17:52 GMT -5 Sheila said:

fuck just over look my questions after that.
thanks sarah ass.

lol love you
they will answer urs first anyways cause mine are like essay long

[Chelsia]

Keesha, I've told you over and over I wasn't playing you, and until this game is over you won't believe that... and that's fine with me. I know we will still be friends after this, whether you vote for me or not. All I said to you was reminding you of everything that you told me up until I voted you out, and if you've gone back at that, then you just did it to get me to take you. if so, then that would be playing me. Just sayin.

Sarah, I didn't see anything until a few days after he evicted James. long after you & Sheila were evicted. I knew peices of Will's game, some things I didn't. because I trusted him all along that he was loyal to me. Things were peiced together until he eventually told me everything. So no, the DR had nothing to do with that. This came to a big shock to Keesha, because Will felt as though she didn't understand his game and I did, and he didn't tell her things that he told me. Things such as alliances & deals he had, votes he casted, plans/strategies he made for each week, etc. Those were the things kept from her. So, it wasa bit of a shock to her. Though I have to say, Keesha had mentioned it quite a few times in previous weeks that she thought he was working with you guys, therefore I don't see how it could be that shocking to her if she already assumed it was true. I did play it to some extent, because I was trying to hide the extent of Will & I's alliance, and apparently it worked. I did not tell her about anything that Will had ever told me. Like Keesha said trust is a two-way street. I trusted Will by understanding what he was doing, not judging his game, or attacking him for things, and in turn he trusted me with things he was doing. I wasn't about to break that trust by spilling things to other people.

My reason for nominating you was simply that I felt you were the biggest target in the game. I knew that you were a chill person and that no one in the game disliked you. I also felt as though no one else was coming after you. Once it was clear that we were targetting you, I felt as though you were coming after me, and if you weren't, I knew for a fact that you were coming after Keesha, and was also worried that you would nominate the two of us. At the time, April & Nakomis had also been making deals with our group, so I decided it wasn't the time to go after them. Therefore, I nominated you. it had nothing to do with Sheila, nor did I think we could "sway" her back to our side. it was simply because at the time I saw you as a threat, and as time went on it would only be harder to get you evicted.

If you, Sheila, Keesha, and myself had teamed up, I think we would have done really well and lasted a long time in this game. We're all smart girls, that would have worked really well together in things such as competitions. it would have been an amazing alliance. possibly even be the final four. However, had this happened, it's clear that you & Sheila were tight and Keesha & I were tight, I think we would have had alot of concerns and trust issues within the alliance. that's what I think of that alliance.

Thanks!

[Will Kirby]

did it ever cross your mind to take Nakomis? If so, what convinced you not too?

it never crossed my mind to take Nakomis, that would be the sucker mover. I feel like I played the best game, and I feel I could beat both of them in the final 2 so I took who helped me out more in the game and who I felt deserved it more

but now if everyone votes a certain way because they have a best friend in the final 2, I might regret that decision

first you were sincere in wanting to help us get Keesha, and Chelsia out, or if you just agreed to appease us.
I never wanted Keesha or Chelsia out, I lied to you about that because I didnt want you to think I was playing both sides. I tanked the veto towards Sheila to gain your trust AND to get Angie evicted. When I came to you Sarah and I said I was going to tank the veto if you picked me, I was trying to get into the veto comp so that I could have you or Sheila win veto, then I could get Angie nominated. I wanted Angie evicted at the beginning of the week and when you approached me with the alliance it was too good to pass up, so thats another reason why I went with you guys, to get Angie evicted.

that you weren't pushing to get me out, but were you really sincere in telling me you wouldn't vote me out, before you did?
Chelsia and Keesha both wanted you out, so I posted the fake convo trying to get James or Roddy nominated instead, but that failed. I was totally sincere with you when I said I was keeping you over Keesha, April was really rushing my decision and I feel really bad now about it. I told April not to tell Sarah cause I didnt wana get your hopes up. If the vote was that night I would have kept you hands down. There was no benefit to me game wise to keep you over keesha or keesha over you. I talked to Chelsia about the vote, and I was getting the vibe that she was gona turn on me if I evicted Keesha, and looking at the past record of comps, I couldnt rely on April - Roddy - Sarah winning hoh, because the 3 combined won 1 competition all season so I had to evict you.

Give us a breakdown of who you alligned with at certain points e and what brought the alliance about, and why they were pivitol to your game?

oh wow, let me pull up my alliance thread

Week 1

chilltown = Will and Boogie, this lasted about 6 days. umm.. sorry lemon but this alliance failed, he was nominated against me.. so it did not help me at all FAIL

Daniele and Will - this was an alliance that I could trust 100% from day 1, I knew she would never turn on me and I could tell her anything without her spreading it around.

April and Will - secret final 2 alliance, I dont think anyone knew about this until the later part of the game. We were also aligned with different sides of the house and could share info, and I knew I could always count on her for a vote to keep me. oopz him*

Nakomis and Will - another final 2 alliance from the getco, I could always count on her to keep me so I thought until I was up against April. I told her everything at the beginning of the game but then stopped because she can't keep a secret at all, she kinda exposed our alliance in all of her ceremony and eviction speeches.

LNC = Howie - Keesha - Chelsia - Will - I could count on them to win hoh after hoh after hoh to keep me safe, and I got them to evict who I wanted. If they didn't nominate who I wanted out I used the veto to change it to the way I wanted it.

LN C = Keesha - Chelsia - Will - Again they won a shit ton of hohs, Keesha nominated me at the end tho. We had trust issues at times, but at the end of the day we all looked out for each other.

d/b delicious bitches (lolz) = Sarah - Sheila - Will - You helped me get Angie evicted, you were 2 more votes I could count on if I was ever nominated and 2 more people I would be safe with if you won hoh, at one point I did want you and LN C to evict each other, but that went downhill when LN C kept winning everything.

Roddy and Will - Kept me in this game, evicted April over me, helped get James out

Sarah and Will - dont think we ever said alliance on 1 on 1 basis but we had an agreement to never nominate each other and I would have stayed true to that if I won hoh when you were here.

Sheila and Will - this was way back when, and we also attempted an alliance with Erika and Chelsia which failed, another person to be safe with and that I could count on

Richard and Will - had numerous deals to keep each other safe, but none of us got the opportunity to prove it, then he betrayed my trust my telling Sheila about our deal

I'm probably forgetting about some others, but ya there ya go

[Sheila]

i love how even though i was supposed to be apart of the "howie,keesha,chelsia will" alliance you didnt include me lmfao.

[Will Kirby]

Oct 8, 2008 20:16:07 GMT -5 Sheila said:

i love how even though i was supposed to be apart of the "howie,keesha,chelsia will" alliance you didnt include me lmfao.

I told you I would forget about some

LN C + Sheila - almost got Erika out, but instead got Daniele out lolz

[Sheila]

haha thanks love<3