Jury Questioning

[Chelsia]

LOL well I was going to save some of these things for the closing statement, but we're really not questioning anymore so why not comment on them now.

First, I didn't know about everything in Will's gameplay the entire game. Like I've said, he felt as though sharing certain things at certain times, until he eventually laid it all on the table. While I obviously couldn't be one hundred percent sure, I did know of the alliance with Sarah, Will. in fact, I brought it up quite a few times that I knew Will had it but I didn't care because I felt as though it was benefitting me. LOL just because Will didn't tell me these things that happened early in the game didn't mean I didn't know about them. I do in fact remember a conversation between us when I told him I pretty much knew everything except for the hinky votes.

As for the fact of Keesha nominating Will & April against each other, Will knew that Keesha and I had come to that decision together. for one, I told him this. we wanted to break that up when we had the opportunity, and wanted April out of the game. We told Will of a promise that Nakomis made to vote April out of the game, as much as we knew it wasn't true. Roddy's vote seemed to be set in stone for Will to stay, so obviously I would be the swing vote and easily be able to keep Will in the game. I don't see how that could affect the decision of taking myself or April to the final two, as Will already knew about this.

I also kept my allies very close to me, to benefit myself as much as possible. Alot of people said Will was running the game, well it was great for me that I was aligned with him and was not only the person that I had a mutual-100% loyal alliance to, but like he said the only person to convince him of any strategic move in this game that would benefit me. And like I already commented, it was a two-way street. Will saved my ass with in nominations with a POV and a coup d'etat and I saved his with two evictions.

Now, onto the fact of "Chelsia taking credit" and the social aspect. Almost everything that happened in this game that I didn't single handedly control, was exactly what I wanted to happen just as much as Will. I've said this already. Our alliance was the front runner for most of these evictions, and they were beneficial to me and things that I wanted as well. My main two targets towards the beginning of the game were Jun & Erika... who left back to back. this left a large group of people who all needed to go. I don't think you can discredit the fact that these were all just as beneficial to me and things that I wanted and took part in, along with Keesha. Not just Will.

The difference between the many evictions concerning Will... and concerning myself... we both played it differently. Though we worked for most of the same goals, we played it very differently. he made alot of deals, promises, and lied about alot of things that not only upset people, but made his word mean very little. I played it a completely different way. I still made the things happen that I wanted, things that were beneficial to me getting to the end, but I did it in a quiet, low-key, social way to where I didn't need to do all of those things to get myself into a lot of bad positions. I didn't have to lie about so many things, therefore people trusted things that I said and didn't always feel as though I was lying. I didn't get myself into the bad positions, and have to backtrack and cover things up. And most importantly, I didn't have to piss of everyone [knowing how important social things matter in this game]. A few people did leave this game angry with me, because I was confrontational about things with them, but it obviously wasn't really bad because I never received hand grenades. Will said something that proved exactly what I'm saying... I should take credit for these things as well. I have. the fact of it is, we both played it in the different ways that I have mentioned, and... socially, I feel as though mine was superior.

[April Lewis]

Chelsia, could you please answer my questions.. I'm not sure if you saw, but I posted some. Sorry I was so late.

[Chelsia]

April, thanks.

I'd compare you to Erika of BB7. I don't remember much of BB4, so don't confuse the two. I'm speaking of Erika in BB7. Many people called her the "ultimate floater", and she was. people liked to say that as a bad thing, as untrue as that is, but in reality she played the best game that was given to her. Like Erika, you were underestimated for awhile in this game. The opportunity was there, but you weren't even nominated. You stayed very under-the-radar and made people feel as though you should stay in the game without really making the huge plays and outing things in your game. You kept alot of things about your game quiet, and did things in a quiet, sneaky way. I believe thet Erika did all of the same things. she had a few people that she was with, but she made everyone feel as though she could stay going between alliance and alliance... and she got herself very far in the game. so, in conclusion, for those reasons I would compare you to Erika.

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Leaving everything personal out of it, going strictly off who I think played the best game that I like most.

1. Keesha
2. Sheila
3. Sarah
4. James
5. April
6. Roddy
7. Nakomis

However, this is my personal preference of game play, going off the things that I know and have seen. This is from where I am standing and what I've figured out and had presented to me. I didn't necessarily have alliances and deals with alot of you so, like I said this is to my knowledge.. and not necessarily what your places should be in the jury. Like I mentioned before with Roddy, people earn the spot that you get whether you had the best strategy or the worst, because this game can't be played entirely on your strategy alone. there was 17 other people you played with.

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You affected my game in a few ways. A few weeks into the game, you and I seemed to have an understanding about things. We weren't coming after each other, and on a strategic level I felt as though we saw eye to eye on things and could help each other. You were an option in the weeks that I had HOH, as well as Keesha, but I felt as though you could help me in the game. In those ways, you affected who I targetted for a little while. Towards the last half of the game, after jury, you affected my game with my alliance. I felt as though you were after Keesha, and myself, and this made you one of my most important targets. Also, I knew you were working with things on Will based off of the votes that you guys planned together and what he had told me. at this point in the game, that was no good for me, so that made you a target to me even more. And, we both know how... you had a tight bond with Nakomis that ended up getting myself and Keesha nominated, and Keesha was very close to leaving that week. Not only did it affect my game for the obvious reasons of me being nominated, it ended up working to help me stay as close to my allies as possible. and then, essentially my biggest target in the game was evicted. you did play a part in that very important week for me. So there are the ways that you affected my game, I hope they were specific enough.

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Some aspects of the PM did have affect in my decision. The fact that you were swearing loyalty up and down, I took this into consideration. I also took into consideration the personal things you were telling me, but after reading it I talked to Keesha and obviously knew that you sent us both the same thing. Therefore, it didn't seem like you were sincere or genuine because you sent us both the same thing. Not to mention, everything that you had promised to me in the past you lied to me about, so I couldn't take your word for it. From a game standpoint, in the beginning your PM and pleas made me really think about my decision, but didn't "sway" my decision. I knew that keeping Will in the game was something that would benefit me, personally, alot and I couldn't trust you on the things that you had promised, especially once I knew you told Keesha the same thing.

[Chelsia]

no, you're fine. I did see them, and began posting my answers in another post. I just had alot to say. LOL

[Will Kirby]

1. I never knew you were part of getting me nominated, I dont remember you telling me that at all. If you did tell me I would have remembered that.

2. Roddy's vote was not set in stone, you and Keesha thought you had Nakomis' vote and Roddy's vote and you didn't have EITHER of their vote. I literally changed Roddy's mind in 20 minutes, he was gona vote me out and then 20 minutes later he voted April out, now if thats not getting some serious shit done then I will never understand what is.

3. You didn't have to lie, backstab, make deals with everyone to get who you want out. Because I was the one doing this all for you. By making deals and evicting people out who I wanted, it also benefited you but you were clean of all the blood. All you had to do is chill out and let me do all the work, I could have easily picked another final 2 alliance member and gotten them to the same spot you are.

[Will Kirby]

I would like you both to list the jurors 1-7 on who you think played the best game..
Nakomis played the best game out of the jury because she got 3rd, its as simple as that. Its silly to say anyone else played a better game then Nakomis out of the jury cause if they did better then they would have beaten her in this game. Now if you asked me who's game I respected the most, this order would be a little bit different.

1. Nakomis - played under the radar a little I think, but still won 3 hohs, she was the Jerrybb10 we could never get out

2. Keesha - won a shit ton of comps apart of the strongest alliance in he house, 1 mistake was nominating me

3. Roddy - under the radar, came up a little short in comps but was still really competitive towards the end, and started to play the game hardcore when him and April were trying to get Sarah to stay

4. April - under the radar, secret alliance pretty much dominated until we ran into a speed bump in Keesha I did not see coming, also stayed back and then all of a sudden came out to make a run at the finals

5. James - hi

6. Sarah - d/b all the way, I dont know why she was such a target by a lot of people, downfall was social game

7. Sheila - downfall was smitting me oopz and going against LN C on her 1st hoh, but still stuck up for herself and didn't let anyone tell her what she was gona do

[April Lewis]

Hmm.. I have a lot of arguements with both of your answers towards me. But I have made my decision. I hope to play in All-Stars with the two of you.

[I R DRUNK!!]

Will, I would like for you to write who's game play you respected the most 1-7 please if you could.

[Will Kirby]

Oct 10, 2008 0:57:56 GMT -5 I R DRUNK!! said:

Will, I would like for you to write who's game play you respected the most 1-7 please if you could.

1. Keesha - great at comps - tight alliances, was the only person to almost get me out of this house

2. April - secret deals - had both sides covered for information

3. Sarah - I dont think you got much chance to put your whole game play into action, but very under estimated

4. Nakomis - won 3 hoh's took my deals and made some great moves with me

5. Roddy - utr - came out to play at the very end, I think he waited a little too long to try to form an alliance while most were already set

6. Sheila - made a few game mistakes in my opinion, won 1 hoh

7. James - won 1 hoh, and sat around, was aligned with Chelsia I guess but I didn't see much game play - maybe cause I didnt talk to you that much

[Chelsia]

LOL at you putting the people you keep claiming I have the votes for at the bottom, and votes you think you need at the top. even though for the longest time [recently] you said Nakomis was such a bad player and the easiest for us to beat in the final HOH. especially James. considering you didn't talk to him because I was keeping you safe with him. does that falls under the part you just said where you did all the work? puhlease.

1. So me telling you how bad I felt about it and how we thought we had the votes to keep you... that somehow meant to you that I didn't have anything to do with it? Riight. Especially when Keesha & I apologized to you together.

2. Roddy's vote wasn't set in stone because you were being really fake mean on the board and he didn't like it.

3. Oh really? You CHOSE to play the type of game that you did. Just as I chose to play the type of game that I did, along with everyone else. I didn't just sit around while you did everything. Just because I didn't go and make 500 deals and promises that I couldn't keep and lie to everyone about everything, making unnecessary enemies and problems... doesn't mean I did nothing in this game. Especially considering the first half of this game you completely hid behind your alliance while Keesha and I were the ones to do be responsible for it. The ONLY time I voted to evict someone that you wanted over the person I preferred was with Richard. And I did that because a) he seemed to be able to rally people against us b) I didnt want dissension within our alliance, and c) he seemed like person knowing the most about my alliance with James and that needed to go. Angie... originally Keesha's idea which I completely agreed with. Erika, clearly my target. Sarah... obviously I wanted her gone and over Keesha and in fact I changed YOUR mind into voting her out. April & Roddy... also targets that I had had and people I'd wanted out for a little while.

thanks for your questions everyone.

[nakomis]

CHELSIA SO FUNNY HOW U PUT ME #9 REALLY I KNOW U DID THAT CAUSE YOU DID NOT WANT TO MAKE SOME OF THE JURY MAD AT YOU BUT LISTEN TO THIS PLEASE THIS IS A FUCKING GAME YEAH PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ME SO FUCKING WHAT I CAME HERE TO PLAY A DAMM GAME NOT TO MAKE FRIENDS I HAVE FRIENDS I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO MAKE FRIENDS WHILE I WAS PLAYING THIS GAME DID U FORGET I WON 3 HOH'S AND THE LAST ONE I SWEPT YOU U DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE

SO KEEP IT REAL

THIS LIST IS BULLSHIT I MADE IT TO THE F3 NOT ALL BY YOUR HELP FOR U TO PUT ME UNDER RODDY WHO DID NOT WIN ONE COMP IS STRAIGHT BULLSHIT YOU ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT GAME I WAS PLAYING I WON 3 HOH'S I PLAYED MY GAME UNDER THE RADAR I BELIEVE THE ONLY BAD MOVE I MADE WAS PUTTING UP SARAH ON THE BLOCK AND NOT GETTING JAMES OUT OF HERE AND THATS IT..

1. Keesha
2. Sheila
3. Sarah
4. James
5. April
6. Roddy
7. Nakomis

BULLSHIT OUT OF ANYONE ON THIS LIST THAT SHOULD BE ABOVE ME IT SHOULD BE SARAH AND KEESHA I FEEL THEY PLAYED A BETTER GAME THEM ME PERIOD

I WAS NOT GOING TO SAY THIS HERE BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS

TO ALL THE JURY MEMBER THIS IS BIG BROTHER WERE EVERYTHING GOES WE ARE NOT HERE TO MAKE FRIENDS ITS COOL... BUT WE ALL CAME INTO THIS GAME TO WIN IT NOW ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS THIS AND I KNOW U ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN FROM IT

REMEMBER SEASON 4 ALISON AND JUN WHO SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME ALISON HANDS DOWN ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT NOW DON'T MAKE URTV SEASON 3 AN (ALISON AND JUN) DON'T GIVE THIS TO CHELSIA JUST BECAUSE SHE WAS YOUR FRIEND IN THIS GAME SHE DID NOT PLAY A BETTER GAME THEN WILL ... WILL WAS OUR FRIEND AND HE DID WHAT HE DID TO GET WHERE HE IS SITTING TODAY YEAH HE LIED TO US YEAH HE HAD F2 WITH MOST OF US AND WE ALL KNEW I TRIED TO GET US TO GET HIM OUT BUT NO ONE WANTED THAT SO FOR US TO HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM IS BULLSHIT OK I GIVE CHELSIA CREDIT SHE WON HOH'S SHE WON VETO'S(WITH WILL"S HELP LOL) BUT WILL HAS BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME SINCE WEEK 1 TO WEEK 15

LETS DO WHATS RIGHT HERE PEOPLE AND VOTE WITH OUR HEADS AND NOT WITH OUR EMOTIONS YEAH I'M PISSED AT HIM TO HE FUCKED ME TOO HE HAS BEEN THE BEST PLAYER THAT PLAYED THIS GAME ALL SEASON AND FOR HIM NOT TO WIN CAUSE CHELSIA IS YOUR FRIEND IS BULLSHIT NOW THAT ALL THE QUESTION HAVE BEEN ASKED AN ANSWERED LETS DO THIS

I WILL GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE CHELSIA U ANSWERED MY QUESTION VERY WELL I EVEN TOLD YOU THAT BUT PUTTING IT UP AGAINST EVERYONES QUESTIONS AND HOW U BOTH ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE A HANDS DOWN WINNER LETS KEEP IT REAL AND DO IT... YOU ALL CAN HATE ME ALL YOU WANT BUT YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT... PEACE OUT

THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME

[Will Kirby]

Tell me what James did again? If he didn't hide behind out alliance I don't know what else he did. He kept us safe week 5 or whatever which put him in a spot to chill out until I took care of him. Sheila I didn't really get along time to analyze her game play and Sarah as well, but I know Sarah a little better and know her game play from last season which probably helped in my decision on her. I did say Nakomis was the best one we could beat in the final hoh, I knew I could beat her at the endurance and I knew you would beat her at the puzzle that doesn't mean I didn't respect her game, you have no idea what went on between Nakomis and I. We made some huge moves together which you won't understand until after the game.

1. I didn't know about you putting me up on the block, why the hell would I lie about that. I can guarantee you if I knew about this, the game would be so different right now and Keesha might be standing here instead of you. Why do you think I wanted keesha out? She nominated me and almost got me evicted, so if you were on the same playing field as her then I guess I shouldn't have tanked the last veto.

2. LMAO - Roddy can tell you yourself, you 2 think you had it all set accordingly. If you think Roddy was gona keep me all along your a fool. I got online and he told me straight out he wasn't keeping me, until I changed his mind.

3. Are you just saying you wanted the same people I got out to benefit you in saying you were apart of it? I put a target out in my diary room at the beginning of the week and about 90% of the time that person went home.

[I R DRUNK!!]

thank you will and nakomis, i appreciate the things u said about me.

oh and for once i agree with everything nakomis posted up there.. dont vote with ur emotions.. its true alison should have won over jun...

[Roddy]

Um... fuck you Nakomis. So what if I didn't win competitions? I tried to win and there are plenty of people who got out before me who won competitions. My strategy was to play as UTR as possible and it got me 5th place, which I'm proud of so you can go fuck yourself. What did you do, other than get cought in lies?

Also, everyone keeps saying "vote for who you think played the best game" Not one of you can say you didn't play emotion-less b/c you aren't robots. So frankly, how can I not vote using emotions when, especially in an intense game like this one, they had a major aspect. Frankly, I think if you cut out emotions, you're cutting out a large part of the game.

Finally, the week April was evicted, I cast my vote to evict Will right after I saw that stupid fight or whatever on the board. I then told Nakomis what I was doing and she did the same (whether she did it at that time or not idk) Then, a little while later, Will messaged me on AIM and being the smooth-talker that he is, made some really good points for him to stay. So then I changed my vote to April. No, my vote was not set in stone.

[nakomis]

Oct 9, 2008 11:52:10 GMT -5 Keesha said:

So basically Will I couldnt trust you in this game, you never told me anything, i dont remember getting pissed at you in week 2 idk..you seemed to go along with everything and then you made it a tie vote without telling me.

I guess basically everyone here has to ask themself..."Why didnt I just vote out Will week 1"

Lol.

this did happen we was so pissed that no one told us to vote for chelsia we did not find out until after the fact but i do remember asking you about it will that you did not tell us and had us out there like that then all of a sudden chelsia was in and jun was out thats when all that happen keesha

[nakomis]

Oct 9, 2008 15:07:07 GMT -5 Chelsia said:

Nakomis, I've already told you that I was one of the ones who told Will you were planning to backdoor him. remember in Will's veto speech when he took me off the block, how he showed the convos, and then you came to me on IM and said you were pissed at me for telling him? we've already covered this. I did tell him. not only were Keesha & I trying to keep our ally safe, but I think it's very clear how close Will & I were, while at the time you and I weren't. and in fact, you ended up nominating me the next morning for not belieiving me on something that I was CLEARLY telling the truth on. I've already told you about telling Will about what you had said... but let's be honest here - I could stay true to an ally that I've had the entire game, which benefited me, or keep that from him for someone who wasn't on my side. like I've said I'm keepin it real... I'm not going to apologize for telling Will that, my loyalty was to my alliance and that was it. if that's being held against me, then obviously the meaning of our alliance isn't quite understood. just as you would have told April, Sarah would have told Sheila, or James would have told me... I would obviously tell Will or Keesha if you were planning to get them out. and I did.

I am going to comment on a couple things. Will did save me with the coup d'etat and POV.. for that I'm very glad that he was a close, strong ally to me. but I have done the same thing. not only did I keep Will off the block when James was HOH, I also kept him two different weeks at the end of the game, when he obviously would have left had I not done that. aside from our alliance, we both had our own selfish reasons for that, and knew it would benefit us individually to keep the other one around. I'm just sayin... two-way street. thanks.

so obviously it helped Will & I both to lay low. if everyone knew how close we were it would make us even bigger targets, and make things worse for me. keep in mind though, like Will mentioned, he had our final two in his avatar for quite awhile now. everyone assumed based on Will's gameplay that he was lying and playing everyone... it only made me less of a target in some aspects and helped my game with everyone else in the house to act as though Will & I weren't that close. same with James.

thanks Roddy.

CHELSIA EXACTLY NO YOU DID NOT I ASKED KEESHA ABOUT IT AND SHE PROMISED ME THAT SHE DID NOT TELL WILL THAT.

I JUST KNEW IT WAS YOU IT COULD ONLY BE ONE OF YOU BUT I WANTED WILL TO CONFIRM WHO TOLD HIM

[nakomis]

Oct 9, 2008 23:38:46 GMT -5 Will Kirby said:

2. Roddy's vote was not set in stone, you and Keesha thought you had Nakomis' vote and Roddy's vote and you didn't have EITHER of their vote. I literally changed Roddy's mind in 20 minutes, he was gona vote me out and then 20 minutes later he voted April out, now if thats not getting some serious shit done then I will never understand what is.

YOU ALL NEVER HAD MY VOTE THAT WEEK I WOULD HAVE NEVER VOTED OUT APRIL AND EVERYONE KNEW THAT. WILL KNEW THAT THATS WHY HE WAS WORKING SO HARD TO GET YOU AND ROODY'S VOTE FOR SURE

[nakomis]

Oct 10, 2008 10:50:10 GMT -5 I R DRUNK!! said:

thank you will and nakomis, i appreciate the things u said about me.

oh and for once i agree with everything nakomis posted up there.. dont vote with ur emotions.. its true alison should have won over jun...

THANKS SARAH I REALLY MEANT WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOU

[nakomis]

Oct 10, 2008 11:07:39 GMT -5 Roddy said:

Um... fuck you Nakomis. So what if I didn't win competitions? I tried to win and there are plenty of people who got out before me who won competitions. My strategy was to play as UTR as possible and it got me 5th place, which I'm proud of so you can go fuck yourself. What did you do, other than get cought in lies?

Also, everyone keeps saying "vote for who you think played the best game" Not one of you can say you didn't play emotion-less b/c you aren't robots. So frankly, how can I not vote using emotions when, especially in an intense game like this one, they had a major aspect. Frankly, I think if you cut out emotions, you're cutting out a large part of the game.

Finally, the week April was evicted, I cast my vote to evict Will right after I saw that stupid fight or whatever on the board. I then told Nakomis what I was doing and she did the same (whether she did it at that time or not idk) Then, a little while later, Will messaged me on AIM and being the smooth-talker that he is, made some really good points for him to stay. So then I changed my vote to April. No, my vote was not set in stone.

YOU ARE TAKING WHAT I SAID SO WRONG I'M NOT KNOCKING YOU BUT FOR HER TO PUT YOU ABOVE ME IS BULLSHIT AND IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT THEN FUCK U. YOU GOING TO VOTE HOW YOUR GOING TO VOTE ANYWAY EMOTIONS OR NOT I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON IS AN ASS OR I'M THERE FRIEND I'M VOTING ON THE BEST AN WE ALL KNOW WHO THE BEST OF URTV3 IS ---- -----


AS FOR THE APRIL THING I WAS NEVER GOING TO VOTE OUT APRIL I WANTED YOU GUYS TO VOTE OUT WILL IT WAS THE TIME IF WE EVER WAS GOING TO GET HIM OUT BUT U DID NOT WANT TO WE HAD IT RODDY RIGHT THERE BUT U CHANGED YOUR MIND LISTENING TO HIM TALK HE IS GREAT AT THAT YOU WAS SET IN STONE ON VOTING HIM OUT YOU CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME THAT YOU VOTED HIM OUT I DID NOT SEEK YOU OUT THAT WAS YOUR MISTAKE NOT MIND REMEMBER ALL OF US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HE FUCKED US BUT WERE IN THE RULE BOOK IT SAYS THAT HE CANT DO THAT WE HAD IT JUST VOTE HIS ASS OUT WE DID NOT NEED CHELSIA VOTE BUT YOU BELIVED HIM LIKE WE ALL DID SO WHATS THE PROBLEM NOW

[james]

if there is one thing this game taught me is that it is virtually impossible, at least to me, to vote without emotion. sorry.
All my judgments that i had while watching big brother seasons has completely shot out the window when i played this game. you form pretty strong bonds with certain people and even if you were the real Will Kirby and the person sitting next to you were Carol from bb8 and she's the one i formed a strong bond with, she would get my vote.
think about it this way.... can u imagine a situation where howie or kaysar would vote for anyone else over janelle? NO.
Don't try and tear me down for it especialllllllyyyyyy when Chelsia, who is absolutely NOTHING like carol or anyone in that league even, worked her ASS off this entire game and got to know people on a personal level and not only made alliances, but took the time to form a real friendship. sorry guys, but that means a lot ESPECIALLY in a game like this.

Will, i absolutely have nothing negative to say about you, i really dont. i think you both played a fantastic game and are both deserving of your spot right now. and believe me when i say good luck to you both. either way, you did great and both unforgettable.