Jury Questioning

[nakomis]

HEY, GUYS ! ITS NAK CONGRATS ON MAKING IT TO THE FINAL 2 ...I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING ON MY QUESTIONS ALL DAY SO HERE IT IS......UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS GAME AND THE WAY YOU BOTH PLAYED ME TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK

I WANT TO START OF BY SAYING THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHO I'M GIVING MY VOTE TO YOU BOTH HAVE DONE THINGS TO ME THAT I DISLIKE YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN REAL GOOD TO ME IN THIS GAME. IN MY EYES I BELIEVE THATWILL PLAYED THE BETTER GAME THEN YOU CHELSIA SO THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU DID IN THIS GAME WITH THAT SAID IM GOING TO START WITH CHELISA


CHELSIA- I HAVE A VERY BASIC QUESTION FOR YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU DID IN THIS GAME THAT SHOULD BE HELD HIGHER THEN WILL I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME DETAILS PLEASE.

OK NEXT QUESTION

PLEASE BE HONEST WHAT ANNOYS YOU MOST ABOUT YOUR F2 PARTNER AND WHAT DO YOU LIKE THE MOST ABOUT HIM?

LAST QUESTION PLEASE LIST ALL YOU DIRTY DEEDS THAT YOU DID THAT GOT YOU WERE YOU ARE PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH

WILL WILL WILL WHAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS THAT YOUR SITTING THERE WITH THAT SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND YOUR NOT BEING TRUTHFULLY TO THE JURY

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

LET ME BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU. YOU EVEN HAVE ONE OF THE JURY MEMBERS BELIEVING THAT YOU HAD NO PART IN SARAH BEING EVICTED OUT OF THE HOUSE TO BE HONEST IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CHELSIA OR KEESHA OR JAMES AS THEY WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT .. IT WAS ALL YOU BABY LETS GO BACK TO THE DAY BEFORE I PUT HER ON THE BLOCK YOU REMEMBER RIGHT I KNOW YOU DO. THAT IS WAY SHE WAS ON THE BLOCK FOR ONE REASON ONLY AND THAT WAS FOR YOU, IF YOU DID NOT SAY WHAT YOU SAID SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UP THERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JAMES. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE

YEAH YOU PLAYED A BETTER GAME THEN CHELSIA BUT TO LIE TO SO MANY PEOPLE DOING IT IN THE PROCESS FUCKING OVER PEOPLE THAT U PROMISE F2 WITH LIKE ME ON DAY 2 I WORKED HARD TO GET YOU THE VOTES YOU NEEDED TO STILL BE IN THE GAME AFTER WEEK ONE IF I DID NOT TALK TO APRIL AT THE VERY LAST MIN AND GOT HER CHANGE HER VOTE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THAT WAS MY DOING U FORGOT THAT.

I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU HOW DID IT BENEFIT YOU KEEPING ME IN THE GAME UNTIL THE F4? THE F3 I KEPT MYSELF IN THE GAME BY WINNING HOH U MADE A BIG DEAL OF WANTING ME OUT THE HOUSE AN YOU KNOW I WAS ALL ABOUT DAT PHAN.

WELL I HAVE ONE MORE

IF I DID NOT TRY AND BACK DOOR YOU WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE BROKEN YOUR PROMISE TO ME( US TO F2)CAUSE WHERE I'M SITTING YOU NEVER WAS GOING TO TAKE ME TO F2 EVEN BEFORE I HAD THE BALLS TO TRY AND GET YOU OUT AND WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT ALL THOUGHS IMS THAT I DID NOT SEND YOU. PEOPLE ALREADY HATED ME, THEN YOU TURN AND KEEP ME ALL I ASK IS WHY DID IT HELP YOU? SPEAKING OF BACKDOOR WHO TOLD YOU I WANTED TO BACK DOOR YOU GIVE ME THE PERSON OR PERSONS NAME PLS

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS BY SAYING MY EYES WERE CLOSED TO YOU THE WHOLE GAME BUT IT OPENED AT THE RIGHT TIME WASH ALL THE BULLSHIT AWAY AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS TRUTHFULLY.

I WISH YOU BOTH LUCK IM GIVING MY VOTE TO THE ONE I RESPECT THE MOST



THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS

[Richard]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wait...not suppose to be here *runs away*

[Jun]

Oct 8, 2008 20:58:40 GMT -5 Richard said:

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wait...not suppose to be here *runs away*

-giggles-

[Chelsia]

Nakomis, thanks. you want honesty, we'll your going to get it. other than certain things I did in the game, you know I keep it real, whether some of these things will seem harsh to you or not. so let's both be honest here, we know where your vote is going. I respect that. I encourage you to open your mind a little and look at both sides of the story.

... I'm not discrediting Will's game, I've said myself that he's played a great game, and a very unconventional one that alot of people didn't figure out until very late in the game. However, I do believe that I have played some things that should be "held higher" than him in this game. Will made alot of moves yes, but he also pissed off alot of people, and had to lie alot, making alot of deals. Most of them helped me in the game, so I'm not complaining one bit... but to answer your question... I didn't have to do those things to get myself to the final two. I'm not saying I never lied, but I didn't make tons of alliances and deals, possibly upsetting people, to get myself here. I played more of an under-the-radar, social game to help me get where I am at. I made moves when I needed to, and laid low when I needed to. It's all in the eyes of the beholder, what type of game you respect more... but I believe the fact that I played the game, fought for myself, and got myself to the final two without having to do all those things should be held higher.

... LOL well I've been nothing but honest, so here goes. the answer to both parts of your second question is actually the same thing. The thing that annoys me most about Will is also one of the things that I like most about Will. He always has a level head, and rarely get's pissed and "goes off" about things... unless people really piss him off. sometimes when you're really frustrated about something, you want to just go off and not have someone joking and playing around. which brings me to the thing I like most about him, and a few other people, he realizes that this is JUST a game, and always wants to have a good time without letting things get to him.

and I'd like to comment on something else, Nakomis. Feel free to elaborate. I haven't discredited Keesha, nor Will, for taking part in getting Sarah nominated, she did. as did James & myself to keep him off the block. the night when you had to make your nomination, James was still an option. as did James. he felt as though all of the deals he was making with you didn't seem to be working because you didn't trust him, and still thought that we were aligned. the conversation in which you told me that James was an option... and then went to James and told him to ask me, and I "lied" to him... that was the fake conversation I was referring to. we had planned to make it look like we weren't together so that you would have an alliance with him and keep him around. just keep that in mind.

and let's be completely honest here, we may have had you do our dirty work, but there were things that you did as well. especially you and I, alot of shit happened between us, and that was not all on me. there were multiple times where you lied to me and did shady things. we went back and forth alot, you nominated me three times. I nominated you twice. we worked together, but we worked against each other alot. it was completely a mutual thing. I just won out in the end.

anyways, your final question... dirty deeds that got me here, hmm. well if we're talking dirty deeds, I really don't believe that I have alot. I made sure to keep watch what I was doing & saying, because I was focused on having a good social game, to keep from getting myself into a position where I'm in the final two with a bunch of people I pissed off and screwed over. so...

1. I flipped sides between Erika & Will/Howie/Keesha, turning my back on Erika, knowing very soon after the vote why she evicted me. I knew this would be better for my game.
2. I kept my alliance with James a secret the entire game, hiding it from my allies knowing the trust issues within our group, because I knew that it would hurt both mine, and James' game had I revealed the alliance.
3. I made a deal of sorts with Keesha to save myself over Howie [even though I would have saved myself anyways], but if it's him or me for eviction, obviously I'm going to keep myself.
4. yes, I lied to you about voting to keep Will, but at that point we were going to try anything to get your vote.
5. I did keep things from Keesha concerning Will, but we've covered that already. I'm not going to apologize for something that not only helped me get to where I'm at, but something that we've said is true about our games' and our character for a long time.

there's your answers. thanks again for the congrats!

[nakomis]

WOW,, THANKS FOR KEEPING IT REAL CHELSIA THAT GIVES ME SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT


WILL YOUR TURN PLEASE

[Roddy]

Well congrats on making F2 Will and Chelsia

Will You got some 'splainin' to do and you know it. I'm all ears.

Also, we all know that Big Brother is a game where lies and a bit of deceit are necessary. But you took it to a whole new level. You seemed to go out of your way to lie and piss people off. Why should I vote for you?

Also, I'm very against throwing competitions and you claimed you did that alot. If you're not going to put forth effort into the game why should I give you the pretend money?

In all reality, you've got to say some amazing things to get my vote. You were my only F2 deal in the game and (just like everyone else) you lied to me and used me. I evicted someone who I like a whole hell of a lot more than you and then you go and put me on the block for NO REASON. No, it's b/c you thought I was gonna veto Nakomis and get out Chelsia (which, now, I kinda wish I did out of spite) well, news flash: I WASN'T!

So, as you can see, I'm a bit perturbed to say the least, so go ahead and try to work me over.


Chelsia Fun fact: You were the first person I talked to in the game, so I have that little connection with you, if nothing else lol. Though I am quite irritated at Will, I don't think it would be fair to just hand you my vote and I do have some questions for you.

Is it true you had the password to Will's confessional? And if so, how fair do you think that is for the other players? I'd say it gives you an unfair advantage.

Also, it's been a long time since we talked, so why should I give you my vote. What did you do better than Will that you think deserves a win.

Also, since I'm completely self-absorbed, did you know about my eviction? If so, I want to know the story behind it.

That's pretty much it.

Both Ha, and you thought I was done...

My question is simple. In the jury house, there was a lot of talk about who "deserves" what spot, which I personally think is crap. You deserve the spot you got (me included). What I want to know from you both is, again since I'm completely self-absorbed, do you think (considering I was an intruder) I deserve 5th place? If not, who does?

That is all. Again, congrats on making F2. I may not have agreed w/your guys' gameplay, but it worked to get you to where you are so it couldn't have been all bad

[Will Kirby]

LETS GO BACK TO THE DAY BEFORE I PUT HER ON THE BLOCK YOU REMEMBER RIGHT I KNOW YOU DO. THAT IS WAY SHE WAS ON THE BLOCK FOR ONE REASON ONLY AND THAT WAS FOR YOU, IF YOU DID NOT SAY WHAT YOU SAID SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UP THERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JAMES. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE
So your talking about the morning before nominations this is pre veto, just wanted to clarify that, sure.. You came on saying Keesha and Chelsia were gona be nominated, so I pushed for you to nominate Sarah instead of those 2. I didn't want her to get evicted, but I did tell you to nominate her cause I didn't want both Chels and Keesh nominated together. Just cause you nominate someone doesnt mean you want them out, I could have easily tanked the veto towards Sarah or I could have won and took her off, or I could have easily gotten the votes for her to stay. The point is, I didnt want Chels/Keesh nominated together, 1 nominated was fine and I felt if you were gona listen to me I had better odds with saying Sarah's name then anyone else. Post veto, I posted fake convos to get you to nominate Roddy or James I had nothing to do with you nominating Sarah post veto.

YEAH YOU PLAYED A BETTER GAME THEN CHELSIA BUT TO LIE TO SO MANY PEOPLE DOING IT IN THE PROCESS FUCKING OVER PEOPLE THAT U PROMISE F2 WITH LIKE ME ON DAY 2 I WORKED HARD TO GET YOU THE VOTES YOU NEEDED TO STILL BE IN THE GAME AFTER WEEK ONE IF I DID NOT TALK TO APRIL AT THE VERY LAST MIN AND GOT HER CHANGE HER VOTE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THAT WAS MY DOING U FORGOT THAT.
Its not like you voted me out or anything over April? I mean its not just me screwing you over in the end, you voted me out first. I never once voted you out before that and the 2 times I nominated you I saved your ass. Maybe if you voted April out instead of me, things would have been different just sayin..

I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU HOW DID IT BENEFIT YOU KEEPING ME IN THE GAME UNTIL THE F4? THE F3 I KEPT MYSELF IN THE GAME BY WINNING HOH U MADE A BIG DEAL OF WANTING ME OUT THE HOUSE AN YOU KNOW I WAS ALL ABOUT DAT PHAN.
It benefited me because if you won veto were you not gona keep the nominations the same? I believed you when you said you would take me to final 3, and I had a better shot at winning veto against you than Roddy if you were lying to me. I did make a big deal of wanting you out, it was all apart of the plan to evict James that week, I came to you after veto and told you I was gona get you to stay and this was all just a game, so I dont think it really mattered if I said I wanted you out, it obviously wasn't true because I kept you both times when I nominated you, dont take it personally, everything I did in this game was based on game only. Everything I told you and everyone else about personal chats and convos is all real.

IF I DID NOT TRY AND BACK DOOR YOU WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE BROKEN YOUR PROMISE TO ME( US TO F2)CAUSE WHERE I'M SITTING YOU NEVER WAS GOING TO TAKE ME TO F2 EVEN BEFORE I HAD THE BALLS TO TRY AND GET YOU OUT AND WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT ALL THOUGHS IMS THAT I DID NOT SEND YOU. PEOPLE ALREADY HATED ME, THEN YOU TURN AND KEEP ME ALL I ASK IS WHY DID IT HELP YOU? SPEAKING OF BACKDOOR WHO TOLD YOU I WANTED TO BACK DOOR YOU GIVE ME THE PERSON OR PERSONS NAME PLS
If you didnt try and backdoor me / vote me out, and Chelsia was in the final 3 with you, then thats when I would have broken our deal.

It helped me to keep you in the game cause when I made deals with you to keep you safe and that you would keep me safe in return I believed you would honor that, even after you voted me out I kept you over Roddy cause I still trusted you that you would keep me safe, so thats why I kept you in the game.

I was shown a conversation of you Chelsia and Keesha all in a chat, I have logs of you saying you wanted me out, and if you want I would have to check my pms to see who sent it to me.

[Will Kirby]

Also, we all know that Big Brother is a game where lies and a bit of deceit are necessary. But you took it to a whole new level. You seemed to go out of your way to lie and piss people off. Why should I vote for you?
You should vote for me cause I played the best game by far, at any moment in time I could get anyone evicted I wanted.

WEEK 1
Turns out Hatch won hoh, and I was going to be safe until I called him a fur ball and was like bitch nominate me. So he did, the end. Day 4, I tell Chelsia everything, my alliance with Howie and Boogie. I told her I knew Daniele before the game, basically spilled everything, and she didn't tell anyone about it. This is when I knew I could trust her, I just needed to set it up for Chelsia to trust me. Try for veto and failed. So I was up against boogie and I needed 5 votes to stay, to keep this short. I made a final 2 alliance with Daniele, Nakomis, April and Keesha. I had another alliance with Howie/Keesha. I tried to get Jun's vote but she eventually flipped and voted me out. 5-4 vote Boogie out, it was RED JAC vs the rest of the house.

WEEK 2
Howie wins hoh, safe week. I wanted Alex and Erika nominated and thats what happened, howd you like the speech? I actually wrote that speech up for him oopz Erika wins veto. This is where I make the biggest mistake ever in getting Chelsia nominated. I thought Erika and Chelsia were close instead of Alex and Erika. Erika you got Alex evicted by telling me you were voting out Chelsia, so I was like wtf is going on here. The whole day was insane with me trying to flip the house and get Chelsia to stay. I some how got it to be a tie with half my alliance going in the opposite direction, then it was easy to get Howie to evict Alex. This was the time where I started to get Chelsia trusting me by showing her how much I would do to keep her in the house. Oh I made a final 4 deal with Erika - Chelsia - Sheila - me this week that lasted like a day, and LNC made a deal to keep Richard safe if he nominated 2 from REDJAC.

WEEK 3
Keesha wins hoh, post veto Hatch vs Diane. I wanted Diane to go, but I put an experiment to the test and told everyone how I was voting and thats it, I didnt want to tell people how to vote. I did this to see who's vote I could control and who would vote their own way no matter what I said. LNC again made a deal with Richard to keep him if he kept us safe his next hoh, but Howie still voted him out lolz, but I made a side deal with Hatch for him to keep me safe if I kept him, but I decided to throw a hinky vote and vote Hatch out. Chelsia joins LNC this week.

WEEK 4
Sheila noms Daniele and Howie, the worst veto throwing ever by Keesha, Chelsia to give Howie the veto win. I then wanted Erika up on the block, but I let LNC and Howie do the talking to Sheila and they promised to keep Sheila safe if she nominated Erika, I let Howie get this done because it made it made it look like Howie was the head of the alliance and he was calling the shots. This made Howie be the 1st target if/when someone came after LNC. I thought it was a for sure Erika eviction so I just chilled out the rest of the week and didn't campaign for votes at all. April ended up voting without talking to me and Nakomis said she flipped a coin to decide her vote, then Hatch lied to me about his vote. First time I got played Daniele was sent packin.

WEEK 5
James wins hoh and tells me I'm safe. I was like WTF, is this all I have to do to stay safe this week? So thats the end of that week.

WEEK 6
Chelsia wins hoh, I wanted Angie gone but I wasn't willing to win a veto to get Angie out so Angie won and Nakomis went up. I was approached with an alliance from Sheila to get Nakomis out and I accepted the alliance but convinced her we didn't have the votes to keep Jun, but then I voted Nakomis out to set up 3 people keeping Jun in the game. That way I could blame the votes on Angie - Sarah - Sheila, I could start a rumor of this alliance.

WEEK 7
I made a deal with Hatch that I would give him hoh if he nominated Angie for him, he took the deal and less than 24 hours later, Sheila tells me that Hatch told her. Bingo, I couldn't trust Hatch so he had to go, but I wanted Angie gone first. So Sarah and Sheila ask me for an alliance and I obviously can't turn down another alliance so I tank the veto and give it to Sheila who saves Sarah. BINGO, hinky vote time I get Chelsia to nominate Angie because of the so called "3 people keeping Jun" alliance and bye bye Angie!

WEEK 8
Richard wins hoh I go on vacation Howie gets evicted I win the cou de twa by bidding on random mystery boxes while everyone gives their money away.

Nak noms Chelsia and Sheila, I wasn't gona use my power to take over her hoh, then I thought of a plan where I could get Richard out and then I would be aligned with everyone in the house and set my game play up to perfection. So I nominated Richard and Sarah. Sarah-Sheila were mad at first but I convinced them that Sarah was safe. I won veto, wich was only the 2nd comp I didnt tank and Richard was voted off 7-0 the first unanimous vote of the season.

So I was going into week 9 with a final 2 alliance with Keesha, Chelsia, Nakomis, April, and Sheila. Final 3 with Sheila and Sarah. I had an agreement with Roddy, and I was aligned with James throught Keesha and Chelsia. My plan was to continue tanking comps and play off as a weak player.

WEEK 9
Chelsia wins hoh, Sarah was suppose to be the target but I had other plans. I figured 1 was gona go home but which one did I trust more? I was just gona do as LN C wanted and have Sarah go home but then Sheila decided to smite me so I decided to tank the veto and let Sarah win taking herself off and Sheila went home oopz.

WEEK 10
Nakomis wins hoh and makes a mess out of everything. People started to figure out my game play and I was alligned with the "house" so to speak. So I had to give Sarah a grenade in the hoh comp to prove to LN C I was loyal to them, then talk with Sarah to make sure our alliance was still good to go. I came up with a plan to make LN C + Nakomis final 4 and Nak and I would take eachother to final 2 and K/C take eachother but LN C didn't like that and came up with their own plan and BOOM got themselves nominated. Then nakomis decides to tell April about the final 4 deal so I had to reassure her that we were the real final 2 alliance, everyone knew about all my alliances yet they didnt wana do anything about it because they trusted me that they were the 1 person I was being true too. I had to win veto to keep LN C intact so I did. I made a fake chat with Nakomis to try and Roddy and James against Nakomis, which would make Nakomis have to nominate James or Roddy because she wouldn't be dumb enough to keep 2 people in the house that hated her. We'll turns out she nominated Sarah, which really pissed me off cause that fake chat was for nothing So then April and Roddy approach me with another alliance to keep Sarah in the game, and I accepted then I slept on it, and I was going back n forth whether to evict Sarah or Nakomis, and Chelsia changed my mind at the last second to vote Sarah out, voting either one out wouldn't have helped my game out any more then the other, but it did help Chelsia's game out to get rid of Sarah so for the 1st time in the game I didn't act selfish. wow this week is dragging on, ok so the end

WEEK 11
I went into Dan mode, and started to win comps. I nominated James and Nakomis and wanted Nak to go at first, but then I started to play scenarios and if it went the way it looked LN C + James in final 4. If James won pov I was gone, so I had to roll the dice and take out that threat now. I went to Nakomis when she was all alone, she had to trust me cause I was the only one willing to save her. Keesha wanted to use the veto, I tried everything for her not to use it so I had to stage a fight with nakomis in front of K/C basically telling Nakomis everything to say step by step and how Nakomis would nominate Keesh/Chelsia against me cause thats the only way I would go home, it worked and Keesha didnt use veto. I made a deal with Roddy before hand to not nominated if I had his vote, and I got April's vote and I broke the tie.

WEEK 12
Keesha wins hoh, I tell her to nominate me. I leave, come back and I'm nominated. So what I could care less, she wins veto and doesn't save me WTF? Ok now I'm pissed and she thinks she has Nakomis' vote? ya ok, howd' that turn out? So I had to make a final 2 deal with Roddy, basically telling him whatever he wanted to hear, I dont even remember all of it but I did everything I could to get him to keep me, made promises I couldn't keep, throwing everyone under the bus, ANYTHING I just needed his vote.

WEEK 13
I nominate Keesha and Nakomis, again wanting Nakomis out in the beginning. Then I win veto, and Roddy is like BITCH why didnt you let me win. It made me think he was gona save Nakomis which would make me nominate Chelsia, then Roddy and Nak could vote Chelsia out. Because Roddy did want Chelsia out before Keesha, so I couldn't take that risk and again I go to Nakomis who is desperate in needing someone to save her again and make another deal with her to keep her safe and I get Roddy evicted. I also did this because I was setting myself up to that if I didnt win veto everyone would take me to final 3. Meaning I saved Keesha with veto, I save Chelsia twice, and I saved Nakomis twice so they all owed me back.

WEEK 14
nakomis wins hoh

Keeps me safe as I thought she would, Chelsia wins veto saves herself and keeps her word to me that were final 2 and votes out Keesha, also just checking didn't anyone notice the avatar?

WEEK 15
so in the endurance comp, it comes out that Chelsia and I were aligned with a final 2 deal for awhile now and for some reason Nakomis was shocked by that. I ended up winning part 1, chelsia won part 2, I voted Nakomis out and here we are.

Also, I'm very against throwing competitions and you claimed you did that alot. If you're not going to put forth effort into the game why should I give you the pretend money?

1. the best player to ever play the game is Will Kirby, and if anyone disagrees you do not understand the game of Big Brother. How many comps did he win? Oh yeah... a big goose egg

2. I won more comps than everyone this season

3. does this look familiar? OH BURN!

"Roddy" (8:52:13 PM): you here?
"Roddy" (9:25:44 PM): omg, can i please win
DrWill chilltown (9:27:13 PM): hi
DrWill chilltown (9:27:16 PM): sorry didnt see it
"Roddy" (9:27:17 PM): fuck you
DrWill chilltown (9:27:51 PM): wtf?
"Roddy" (9:27:56 PM): i'm just irritate
"Roddy" (9:27:57 PM): d
"Roddy" (9:28:45 PM): i wanted to win a comp for a change
DrWill chilltown (9:28:58 PM): lolz
"Roddy" (9:29:04 PM): i was doing well
"Roddy" (9:29:06 PM): admit it
"Roddy" (9:29:09 PM): i got 3 points
"Roddy" (9:29:35 PM): ADMIT IT
DrWill chilltown (9:30:29 PM): u did good
DrWill chilltown (9:30:35 PM): I was like oh shit
DrWill chilltown (9:30:37 PM): I gota beat him lol
"Roddy" (9:31:10 PM): why
"Roddy" (9:31:15 PM): we're in an alliance
"Roddy" (9:31:19 PM): i'm irritated
DrWill chilltown (9:32:25 PM): cause
DrWill chilltown (9:32:27 PM): I wanted to win
DrWill chilltown (9:32:29 PM): why?
DrWill chilltown (9:32:40 PM): do u really want me to just tank it and give it to ya?
"Roddy" (9:32:45 PM): well...
"Roddy" (9:32:46 PM): YES

In all reality, you've got to say some amazing things to get my vote. You were my only F2 deal in the game and (just like everyone else) you lied to me and used me. I evicted someone who I like a whole hell of a lot more than you and then you go and put me on the block for NO REASON. No, it's b/c you thought I was gonna veto Nakomis and get out Chelsia (which, now, I kinda wish I did out of spite) well, news flash: I WASN'T!
I evicted you for the following reasons

1. you said fuck you to me, thats mainly the only reason why I evicted you, the others listed below are just other benefits from this. If you haven't noticed since I was aligned with a lot of people I had to find certain things to evict people for, it might of been because some smited me? or if someone said the wrong thing to me or if someone just pissed me off they were going home

2. I saved Keesha, which I could use as leverage for her to take me to final 3

3. I kept Nakomis here, who said would keep me safe

4. LN C had a better shot at beating Nakomis in hoh over you


I deserve 5th place? If not, who does?
I actually agree with you on the part that you deserve what you got. I think you deserve 5th place, thats what you got so thats what you deserve. period end of story

[Chelsia]

Roddy, yes, that is true. I didn't have it all along, the night before April was evicted... Will needed my vote to stay in the game and after what had happened with James the few days before, I had some major trust issues with him because he didn't tell me about it. and considering his DR was filled with alot of Chelsia to the end and stuff like that, he knew showing me things in it would make me keep him in the game. if anything, that gave Will an unfair advantage by getting my vote that way, but I never read anywhere in the rules where we couldn't do that.

next question. I think I've stated these reasons, but I'll state them again for you. Will played a great strategic game, at times he was controlling the house. yes, I knew this. it did cross my mind to be the closest ally to him in the game, and within our group. I did say it was my best strategic move by aligning myself with the people that I did.

in saying this, I'm not discrediting what Will has done. like I said he played a great strategic game, but I played a better social game. I made very important strong bonds and alliances for the end part of the game, and solidified these the entire game. I also made the things I wanted happen in this game without having to unnecessarily piss people off and break my word. and I got myself to the end based on a social game and fighting for myself, rather than making two hundred deals to screw everyone over.

Will had alot of deals and alliances, which unfortuntely started to unravel around the time that Richard & Sheila left. he made alot of deals, promisies, and lies to people that pissed people off, and had to backtrack on alot of things. and like I've mentioned, it comes down to which game play you like better, respect more, and feel deserves it more. the smart, unconventional, strategic game that pissed people off on alot of occasions and forced you to lie & backstab... or the smart, quiet, social game that left me just as responsible for all evictions in the game, but getting along with everyone and almost never having to break my word, lie, and piss people off unnecessarily. based on that and all things I've listed about my game, I feel as though I deserve it.

next question. yes, I knew about your eviction. the day that Will used POV on Keesha, he approached me saying he thought we should change it up, use POV on Keesha, and vote you out. Keesha & I both felt that was a good plan for the week, so we all went with it. if you can remember back, you made a comment [this came from a competition] that you were a bridesmaid by always coming 2nd in competitions. this is true, you'd shown that you were good at competitions, and as far as we were concerned you were coming after myself, and then Keesha. it was only natural that we wanted you out, especially when the opportunity presented itself by Will having POV.

final question. first, I do agree that you deserve the spot you get, because for some reason whether it be good or bad, that's where you got yourself. that's what you deserve. I do think you deserve 5th place. and exactly that. you were underestimated in this game. it seemed as though you didn't care about it and weren't involved in it, and that made you underestimated and not seen as a target for awhile. once we reached the jury, actually then was when I wanted you out sooner rather than later, thinking it would come back to bite me. However, at the time Keesha still thought you were with us, and it would have been stupid at the time. once Sarah left, you were one of my two targets because you really seemed like you were going to win speed/live/posting/etc competitions. also, you made us thinkn that you were with us for a long time, and appearing to be aligned with the strongest alliance in the house is definitley a smart move. and on top of the fact there's that you were an intruder. yes, you deserved 5th place.

thanks!

[nakomis]

So your talking about the morning before nominations this is pre veto, just wanted to clarify that, sure.. You came on saying Keesha and Chelsia were gona be nominated, so I pushed for you to nominate Sarah instead of those 2. I didn't want her to get evicted, but I did tell you to nominate her cause I didn't want both Chels and Keesh nominated together. Just cause you nominate someone doesnt mean you want them out, I could have easily tanked the veto towards Sarah or I could have won and took her off, or I could have easily gotten the votes for her to stay. The point is, I didnt want Chels/Keesh nominated together, 1 nominated was fine and I felt if you were gona listen to me I had better odds with saying Sarah's name then anyone else. Post veto, I posted fake convos to get you to nominate Roddy or James I had nothing to do with you nominating Sarah post veto.
OK,,SARAH JUST SO YOU KNOW THATS TRUE BUT THAT NIGHT I COULD NOT GET THAT CONVERSATION OUT MY MIND I KNEW HE HAD A DEAL WITH U


IF I DID NOT TRY AND BACK DOOR YOU WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE BROKEN YOUR PROMISE TO ME( US TO F2)CAUSE WHERE I'M SITTING YOU NEVER WAS GOING TO TAKE ME TO F2 EVEN BEFORE I HAD THE BALLS TO TRY AND GET YOU OUT AND WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT ALL THOUGHS IMS THAT I DID NOT SEND YOU. PEOPLE ALREADY HATED ME, THEN YOU TURN AND KEEP ME ALL I ASK IS WHY DID IT HELP YOU? SPEAKING OF BACKDOOR WHO TOLD YOU I WANTED TO BACK DOOR YOU GIVE ME THE PERSON OR PERSONS NAME PLS
If you didnt try and backdoor me / vote me out, and Chelsia was in the final 3 with you, then thats when I would have broken our deal.

It helped me to keep you in the game cause when I made deals with you to keep you safe and that you would keep me safe in return I believed you would honor that, even after you voted me out I kept you over Roddy cause I still trusted you that you would keep me safe, so thats why I kept you in the game.

I was shown a conversation of you Chelsia and Keesha all in a chat, I have logs of you saying you wanted me out, and if you want I would have to check my pms to see who sent it to me.


HOLD ON ONE SEC IT WAS ONLY TWO PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THE ONE SITTING NEXT TO YOU OR THE ONE SITTING NEXT TO ME WHICH ONE TOLD YOU NAME PLEASE

[Will Kirby]

my final 2 alliance person sent me that convo but which one

ok it was Chelsia, but don't base your vote on 1 lil thing like James oopz

[nakomis]

Oct 9, 2008 9:08:44 GMT -5 Will Kirby said:

my final 2 alliance person sent me that convo but which one

ok it was Chelsia, but don't base your vote on 1 lil thing like James oopz

THANKS FOR BEING HONEST AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS NO I'M NOT GOING TO BASE MY VOTE ON THAT AT ALL I'M GOING TO BASE MY VOTE ON THE FACT THAT YOU VOTED ME OUT TWICE....
****GIGGLES****
WEEK 6 HMN SORRY SHELIA SARAH I THOUGHT U BOTH VOTED ME OUT

THANKS YOU TO FOR KEEPING IT REAL YOU BOTH GAVE ME A LOT TO THINK ABOUT

P.S.THANKS FOR TELLING HIM CHELSIA

[Will Kirby]

I voted you out knowing you would stay. I had a lot of hinky votes but I knew exactly what the outcome was going to be, and you know why I had to vote you out... to make LN C believe Angie - Sarah - Sheila were in an alliance even tho they were not

[Will Kirby]

Even though I had a lot of final 2 alliance and broke a lot of deals with everyone, doesn't mean I'm the only one.

April - I know you were also aligned with Nakomis, actually I never broke my word to you, hell I tried to tank the veto and give it to you and you came up so close to win that

Nakomis - vice versa, you kept April in the house over me and I felt you were closer to April than me

Keesha - you nominated me and almost got me evicted, made deals with both me and Chelsia to take to final 3, and turns out you were gona take Chelsia to final 3 as well

Sheila - I knew if it came down to d/b in the end it was going to be you and Sarah in the final 3. You both knew each other from URTV2 and I was gona be an idiot to think either one was gona take me

Sarah - same thing with Sheila........

James - didn't really have a close alliance with you even tho I told you that you were gona be safe, You were taking Chelsia and Keesha over me no matter what

Roddy - I guess your the only one who didn't have any other side deals and probably the only one who would have taken me to final 2, if it came down to it

so who is actually playing who here? sure I played everyone to get to this point, but its not like I'm the only one making deals here. If I stayed true to any particular alliance of the above mentioned I would have gotten my ass kicked to the curb, but instead I stayed true to the only alliance member I trusted in this house and she was the only one who would have taken me to the final 2, NONE of you in the jury would have taken me to final 2 and thats why you were evicted, and if your gona sit here telling me that you would take me to final 2 then.... ya idk I got nothin

[Roddy]

Will, I'm standing by my fuck you. You're an arrogant asshole and I don't regret anything I said to you in the game.

Chelsia, thank you for answering my questions.

I have what I need, thank you both and congrats on making F2.

[Keesha]

The only real thing im kinda sorta shocked by really is how close Will and Chelsia were, lol.
I should have known something was up week 2, same as I knew something was up with April because he was like "Well I know I have aprils vote to stay" and all that shit.

So basically Will I couldnt trust you in this game, you never told me anything, i dont remember getting pissed at you in week 2 idk..you seemed to go along with everything and then you made it a tie vote without telling me.

I guess basically everyone here has to ask themself..."Why didnt I just vote out Will week 1"

Lol.

[Will Kirby]

SEASON 4 JURY FTW

[Will Kirby]

Oct 9, 2008 11:34:09 GMT -5 Roddy said:

Will, I'm standing by my fuck you. You're an arrogant asshole and I don't regret anything I said to you in the game.

coming from someone who bitches me out for tanking every comp, but yet you wanted me to tank your last veto comp to you

[Will Kirby]

Oct 9, 2008 11:52:10 GMT -5 Keesha said:

So basically Will I couldnt trust you in this game, you never told me anything, i dont remember getting pissed at you in week 2 idk..you seemed to go along with everything and then you made it a tie vote without telling me.

I guess basically everyone here has to ask themself..."Why didnt I just vote out Will week 1"

Lol.

why couldn't you trust me? I did everything to keep LN C in the game, your the one who almost got me evicted.

You totally went off on me week 2 when I said I was going to try and get votes for Chelsia to stay after you voted. I didn't tell you I was getting Chelsia to stay because at the time you didn't believe me about how it was the right decision.

You shoulda voted me out week 1, everyone should have. The point is I got you all to keep me week after week. Even when you figured my game play out, you STILL couldn't get me out. Chelsia was never really "the target" and when she was, I was the one who got the votes for her to stay week 2, I was the one who used the cou de twat to save her, and I'm the one who saved her with the pov.

Out of the 4 times Chelsia was up for eviction, I saved her 3 out of the 4 times by myself. I made it a goal to get not only myself to final 2 but to have LN C in the final 3 which came up short and to have Chelsia in the final 2.

[Sheila]

i would've voted you out will if i could've =P